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Last post 08-02-2006, 11:20 AM by MagicMinotaur. 87 replies.
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  •  2/17/2004 4:56:00 PM 498081

    Organised religions

    It seems to me that the root of the world's problems seem to come from organised religions' utter hatred of one another. Wouldn't it make sense then to scrap the whole concept. Sure, I understand the need for religious gatherings and religious leaders, but that doesn't explain the need for everybody who believes in a religion to follow every last principle and doctrine of said religion. Can't people just believe in their god without being branded a 'christian' (or whatever).
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  •  2/17/2004 5:14:00 PM 526392 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    YAY! RELIGIOUS DEBATING! ILOVEITILOVEITILOVEIT!!!

    The problem isn't necessarily that the religions hate each other. Well it is, but it goes deeper than that. It's not that every religion is taught that the others are wrong, it's that they teach that their way is right. That's the problem. Religions teach that "This is the one true way, the only way. Now go out there and bring others to the path of enlightenment, so that they may be saved. If you can't, send them to the fiery underworld where those heathens belong."


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  •  2/18/2004 11:11:00 AM 528254 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    well, that's what luther wanted, he still wanted to believe in his god, but he criticized the church(oh, and he had reasons!, what he stated was that people could believe in god, and try to follow it their own way, that people should never need the curch in order to get to heaven, in his time, the church was charging money for enternal salvation, sooo..there you go.

    people should me more open-minded
  •  2/18/2004 1:07:00 PM 529835 in reply to 498081

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    RE: Organised religions

    I agree with Terra Drake, religions by definition think that they're right, and that the hold The Truth (capital 'Ts'). It reminds me of a story I read once:

    A prince wanted something special for his birthday, so he ordered for an elephant to be brought to his kingdom. The thing is, nobody in that kingdom, not even the prince, had ever seen or even had an idea of what an elephant looked like. When the animal was delivered, the prince had it put in a special barn that was completely dark, so after the animal's handlers departed no one remained who knew what to expect.

    The prince kept the elephant as secret as he could, with the intention of showing it to his subjects on his birthday. Of course there was much speculation, and bets about the elephant, so a few ingenious people devised a way to find out what the animal looked like before time.

    They hired blind men, assuming that they would be able to tell what the elephant looked like by touch, and managed to get them inside the barn. Unfortunately, the elephant panicked at the intrusion, broke out of the barn, escaped and drowned in a nearby river. In the confusion nobody was able to see it, so they asked the blind men to describe what they had managed to touch.

    'The elephant is long, like a tube,' said one.

    'No, thee are mistaken, it is like a rope, with a tuff of hair,' stated another.

    'Both of you are wrong, the elephant is smooth and ends in a point,' interjected yet another.

    'You are all not only blind but also stupid!', said the next, 'the elephant is heavy, and shaped as a column.'

    The debate was animate, since a lot of money rested on what the elephant really looked like, but no one could agree on what that was. The result was an all-out conflict, with each group believeing they knew what the truth was, and demanding to get their bet money. As for the prince, after the fiasco he never ordered another elephant, so the fight endured for many years.

    The point of that story? Each blind man had a part of the truth, but believed he had it all, and never considered sharing their knowledge with the others in order to get a more complete picture. Even if they had they still would have been off the mark, but much closer than with their individual belief.

    I don't think that we can know The Truth, simply because our brains are not powerful enough to grasp it, but maybe the whole point is to look for it, and get as near it as humanly possible.


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  •  2/18/2004 2:41:00 PM 528260 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    that was a great example, keep it up
  •  2/23/2004 4:26:00 PM 530332 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    I concurr,

    Anyway, I belivev religions should worry about those in their community. Why try to convert so n' so toward the light when he's not intrested or dosen't believe, when your own kind breaking their own ways of living

  •  2/23/2004 4:41:00 PM 530301 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

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  •  2/23/2004 8:24:00 PM 529207 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    hey, good job whoring your comic
  •  2/23/2004 11:12:00 PM 529973 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    Oh, no... not a religious debate... I swore to myself I would never debate about it again... last time I did so at school I almost got beaten up because I am an atheist... well, that and the fact that I endep up calling 35 people in my classroom ignorant and insecure Jesus lovers. Well, not in those exact words, but I got carried away... so, now everybody hates me and thinks I'm crazy. See ? That's another proof that religion corrupts people !!!
    "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"
    I will f*** you in the ass and mouth
    Catullus, XVI

    Things do sound more profound in Latin...
  •  2/23/2004 11:34:00 PM 529629 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    Actually, wouldn't that be another  proof that you corrupt religous people?
  •  2/23/2004 11:40:00 PM 529981 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    What ? Me ? Corrupting ?

    Actually, I didn't know that they were actually really religious until I presented my paper about Atheism. Well, with the exception of two or three guys who ocasionally wear "Jesus loves you" kind of T-shirts. That Atheism paper I presented was like putting a salty thinger on a wound. So I wasn't corrupting people, I was showing them my point of view. Religion corrupted them before.


    "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"
    I will f*** you in the ass and mouth
    Catullus, XVI

    Things do sound more profound in Latin...
  •  2/24/2004 12:37:00 AM 529632 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    Were you presenting your point of view in a fair and honest manner while allowing for the possibility of opposing viewpoints?

    If stuck up my-opinion-is-the-only-one-that-matters christians annoy you, well, it works both ways. Any religion (or lack thereof) can also produce a thoughtful, accepting individual.

  •  2/24/2004 12:44:00 AM 530983 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    No, really... I was just expressing my opinion, specially because there is still so much taboo about atheists, one guy even asked me if I was a Satan worshipper ! Which I am not, in case you people might be thinking I am... actually, I ended up transforming a normal, quiet presentation into a religious debate... I got carried away, though, and ended up becoming a little offensive... enough to call religion childish...
    "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"
    I will f*** you in the ass and mouth
    Catullus, XVI

    Things do sound more profound in Latin...
  •  2/24/2004 2:06:00 AM 531454 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    I am a proud atheist as well. I despise most religions for one reason in particular. That is also the reason I love Buddhists.

    Tolerance.

    Almost every religion preaches that "Our way is the only way and any other way will lead to suffering. Bring others to our way, so they may see the truth and be spared. If they won't come over, then SEND THE HEATHENS TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG!!!"


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  •  2/24/2004 4:03:00 AM 530139 in reply to 498081

    RE: Organised religions

    Atheist or agnostic? I'm a very strong atheist, and it surprised me greatly when a person I know told me he was agnostic.
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