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Freedom?

Last post 08-28-2005, 1:12 PM by Thor. 16 replies.
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  •  8/18/2005 9:53:17 AM 751893 in reply to 751571

    Re: Freedom?

    Alright, I'm gonna mix in this discussion, I would like to shock some people here. XD

    First off, Adam and Eve...
    First and only 2 people said to roam the world, fall in love and make kids.
    Question: Who do the kids mate with?
    Uhhhm, brothers and sisters, daughter and father, son and mom...what?
    I mean, some sperm should meet some egg, or else there will be no spawn.

    Seriously, I'm actually discribing incest here. Is that wrong or right? Think about that.

    Gun kill people or do people kill people?
    Thor is right IMO, but Pip said their purpose is for killing. That's right too.
    Leave a gun laying about without bullits and it's harmless.......until some kid finds it thinking "COOOOOOL! a GUN!" Then stashes random projectiles in it and aim for random stuff, preferably something living and think too lightly about the material they stashed in it won't penetrate them at the 'speed of a bullit'.

    Gun's don't kill, it's the person behind it. But as long as they are made or still around, people WILL get killed. Regardless if it is out of self defence, Purposely attack...or have some random fun with a found item.

    I don't wanna bring the bible in. As someone who has been exploring the paranormal stuff, I can say...DO NOT RELY ON THE BIBLE!!! Or actually any huge religion in general. The bible alone and it's stories raise too much questions.
    ( Remember the incest thing I mentioned? Noah's Arc, male and female of every spicies...who will their kids screw to survive exstinction? And God made the universe? I hope he can teach me sometime. ^^)

    Gun's shouldn't be made legal or illegal.
    If it's legal, everyone will get one and "shoot first, ask questions later" if someone is in their house at night. Maybe it's a burgular....maybe it's the neighbour trying to check up if you're ok. No murderer coming by, or the house 'seemed' to be on fire.
    He's be up in heaven going "THANKS ALOT YOU JERK FOR KILLING ME OVER BEING CONCERNED ABOUT MY DEAR NEIGHBOURS!
    Illegal, hmm, don't people get tempted and aroused by doing unallowed stuff?
    2 solutions, either never make them anymore (my opinion) Or allow those who have a certificate to have them. And ONLY when it's certain if the person is reliable using a gun.

    Gay marriages... Hmmm, something interesting.
    Oh, sorry, I'm not gay, I rather see girl on girl then guy on guy. x.x
    I dunno, if 2 persons love eachother of the same sex, let them. It's possible... You can even be straight and love someone of the same sex more then the one you're with.

    Love might be one word, but it describes tons of varying emotions that do show affection.
    Besides, do animals 'get married'?
    If it's a thing God wants all his living species to do, I really wanna see how a squirle get's married.
    It's probably human invented anyway, I had tons of thoughts about why, but it surely has a reason people might have forgotten.
    Happily ever after in fairy tales are mostly expected by women when they get married.
    Sorry, take a cold, fresh shower to WAKE YOU UP if you do.
    You can't tell if you'll stay happy afterwards. But tough times can still come after that.
    Wait, it was about gay marriages.... ><;

    Abortions is a subject I kinda hate now.
    Seriously, my mind dwells from time to time and rarely touches that subject, but it still does.
    Thor is Right, and Spree is right. AND Pip is right.
    Personally, I hope it'll all turn out into miss carriages when it comes to messy situations.
    It's wrong to take a life, even if it's unborn.
    Natural selection, human intervention, blah, blah, blah.
    That's all just...a weird ass paradox.
    Would the child die before or during birth and is it a certainty? I say, abortion.
    Did the mother get raped and gotten pregnant because of it?
    This is a toughy, sorry to say this, but rape is kinda natural.
    Don't get me wrong, I hate someone raping another.
    Rape also happens in the animal world.
    Why does it happen? Natural selection.
    The males natural function is to pass on their genes as much as they can. Don't deny it, it's true!
    If they can't get a mate, they'll try to get their mate by force.
    Also when danger is present to a male person, their tendancies to rape become higher.
    That's partially why men rape women in wars.
    If they die, their genes might not pass on.
    This is all based on researched facts that I heard of.
    And, maybe the women raped might still want the child and regret 'killing off' their unborn child.
    I can't answer this really, either let someone adopt the child, or it's their call.
    If they regret it, it's their own fault. Sad but true. v.v
    If it's because the mother or anything that would be the enviroment*sp* of the child that would make it hard or scarring on them.
    Also a question to me. I mean, face it, people should go through at least a little *** to get a fairly good perspective on life. Not all things can come as pleased,
    But we don't want them all to get suicidal or anything too.
    So my suggestion, let others adopt it?
    Just don't do an abortion when you cheated on your husband or...think you're not entirely ready or anything. Because then it would be just plain wrong to me.

    Just for the record, I do wanna add some things too.
    (yes, more)
    Eze was right, the anti smoking, drug and gay thing is not a freedom thing.
    So, the US isn't a free country.
    He said a valid thing, and it is my country that represent it for 97%. (remember, The Netherlands, It's a small country that's like heaven and it's located in Europe.)
    A free country would be a country where you're allowed to do just about ANYTHING, AS LONG AS YOU DON'T HARM OTHERS.
    Gay people would be happy if it's legalized.
    They wouldn't harm others 'just like that'.
    Besides, if you're a homophobe or hate them, you should encourage it. They'll stay together, get no kids and disappear. Not for good, but maybe for a while.
    And if they found someone, they are less likely to ask you "Hey, you single and gay? Wanna go out with me?"
    Drug legalization wouldn't be too bad either.
    People can self-destruct them as they like.
    As long as they don't force others to do so.
    I hate americans sueing eachother for crappy retarded dumbass excuses, But THIS would be something I'd encourage in this case.
    If you're dumb enough to let someone talk you into doing that kinda stuff or if they force you to. Sue them like no tomorrow or something.
    Legalize abortion, with conditional rules.
    That's pretty much explained by me.

    As for rapes and all, the US should legalize prostitution.
    Some people would rather pay for sex then spend years in jail for raping some girl.
    Not that I would cheer girls on to walk the streets.
    It's rarely an occasion that some women actually has no other choise.

    I'm sorry if I pissed people off or offended them or hurt them or blah, blah, blah, in any way.
    But I just am trying to explain and show my perspective on all this.

    Just remember, I'm trying to explain things at least some core of truth and/or logic.
    It's fun to debate/discuss things from time to time, just stay open minded and take it lightly. *cough cough* Like I didn't see someone do here.
    And face it, some things are too hard to just get an answer on. Just accept it and ignore the thing all together, Wether it's something is right by what you or the other thinks.
    At some point, it's both valid and just an opinion, not a solution.
    Os iusti meditabitur sapientiam, et lingua eius loquetur iudicium.
    Beatus vir qui suffert temtationem.
    Quanium c-um probatus feurit accipient coronam vitae.

    Kyrie, ignis divine, eleison.

    Oh quam sancta, quam serena, quam benigna, quam amoena.
    Oh castitatis lilium.
  •  8/28/2005 1:12:23 PM 753973 in reply to 751893

    Re: Freedom?

    wow........ you're smart...... i found myself agreeing with mostly all of what you said......but... um ... you made me read too much, now my head hurts.
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