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Upcomming Star Wars movies

Last post 10-13-2004, 8:21 AM by Prince Karo. 39 replies.
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  •  3/6/2004 4:25:00 PM 536504 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    I think he'll probably invalidate the books. I know I'm going to be smote for saying this, but the only Star Wars that really is Star Wars, is the movies. The novels are just fanfiction.
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  •  3/6/2004 4:28:00 PM 536675 in reply to 498111

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    No way there's gona be sequels,Marky boy is to old.
  •  3/7/2004 6:34:00 PM 537773 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    not if they go far enough into the future....

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  •  4/22/2004 7:00:00 AM 569210 in reply to 498111

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    all star wars films are rubbish

     

     

  •  4/23/2004 6:39:00 PM 561702 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    *blasts him with the death star*



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  •  4/24/2004 10:54:00 AM 563889 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    Man, I haven't seen this thread in a WHILE.  Anyway, I don't know how important this is to all the other star wars fans around here... but apparently Mon Mothma is going to make an appearance in Ep. III.  (well, according to the costume fitting schedule anyway...)

  •  4/25/2004 10:40:00 AM 564381 in reply to 498111

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    *dancing around the room* star wars is rubbish, star wars is rubbish and i never lie

     

  •  4/26/2004 6:16:00 PM 569342 in reply to 498111

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    that's pretty old news.. I've even seen a picture of young Mon Mothma...

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  •  5/2/2004 9:01:00 PM 568578 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    i don't have much time to devote to the aquisition of news about star wars.  pretty much any news is news to me

  •  5/3/2004 8:51:00 PM 569634 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    Dismissing the novels as fanfic has eternally put Terra on my bad side, not that she's around much anyway.

    A few years ago I did a report on the movies in an attempt to determine what made them enjoyable. Serious research, went in loving the trilogy, loving the novels, and liking Episode 1 (before Ep2). Came out hating all four films and realizing that Lucas simply got lucky with special effects geniouses for the initial success while its continuation is mostly caused by the genious of the writers that suceceeded him.

    I'll skip over the fairly disturbing conclusions I reached and statements by Lucas himself that are truly abhorrid and cover some facts.

     

    The Star Wars universe, as originally envisioned by Lucas, was nine movies long, covering Anakin Skywalker as a central figure, with 7-9 showing Luke eliminating his legacy. No matter how Lucas tries to spin those, he'll stomp the novels. Cannon or no, he sold the rights to those authors and if he starts contradicting it that much the fanbase is going to split even worse than it has. That's a really bad buisness decision; the early days of SW:G were plagued by book followers versus game followers versus movie followers with the game trying to reconcile them all and alienating everyone to some degree. The discussions died down quickly, but that's because the contradictions are, as yet, minor. Ep3 could botch any further attempts at in-continuity games. Going beyond 6 is asking for Lucas to shut down LucasArts. Not going to happen.

     

    As for the backstory (1-3), Episode 1 not only damaged continuity within the movies themselves (read the Ep4 screenplay. Kenobi calls Artoo a modern R2 unit he didn't recall owning. While the latter is true, modern is certaintly wrong) but redefined the Jedi and Force with the midichlorian concept. I have *never* come across a serious Star Wars fan who doesn't scream in pain at that word.

    Episode 2 was very hard on the books and none too kind on the movies, perpetuating the damage from Ep1 and seriously comprimising the laws of physics(Star Wars maintains a fairly decent adherence to scientific knowns) with Duuku's sail ship thing.

    Episode 3 can do no better. Lucas got lucky with 4-6. He proved senile with 1 and arrogant with 2. The Dark Side has him, he's going for a target audiance of uneducated, unimaginative, slow, and frankly stupid majority. Also children who trump those requirements with innocence and a lack of understanding of how much potential the movies throw away.


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  •  5/4/2004 8:59:00 AM 572405 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    While the latter is true, modern is certaintly wrong) but redefined the Jedi and Force with the midichlorian concept. I have *never* come across a serious Star Wars fan who doesn't scream in pain at that word.

    ugg, I never want to hear the word 'midichlorian' again...



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  •  5/4/2004 12:31:00 PM 569455 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    *balls up in a corner while slowly rocking back and forth*

    never again.... never again... never again... never again...

  •  5/8/2004 4:46:00 AM 574942 in reply to 498111

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    Midichlorians are the worst-ever example of how trying to be "scientifically accurate" can utterly destroy the spirit of something!

    As for things like Doku's sail ship or Jango Fett's thunder mines, these didn't bother me at all. Just because they look like things from current scientific speculation doesn't mean they ARE those things. If someone in 1950 saw a DVD player in a movie, they might insist that such a thing was impossible because it would have to be a spool of 1mm film, and the light from the projector would melt any film if it were concentrated that much.
  •  6/15/2004 9:21:00 PM 604210 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    The Original Star Wars movies were and are considered so awsome because Prior to them, Science Fiction movies were (and still is to some extent) treated like a deformed stepchild. The people with money refused to spend anything on them. Thus they were largly shoe string budget B or C grade movies with lame plots and bad writers. Fans didn't have the luxury of caring if they were good or not. They had to be glad they were done at all.

    Then along came Star Wars with a real budget mixed with the latest technology and it was so massively better than what preceeded it, that in the minds of fans it reached a level of awsomeness that, compared to other movies it never really achieved. Even with all the technological advances since, we suffer a condition of deminishing returns, thus that great leap of quality is no longer possible within the movie medium.

    To achieve the same leap in quality and thus achieve the same "awsomeness" of the first movies you would need a new medium that would engage all the senses and submerge the veiwer into the "movie" completely.

  •  6/18/2004 11:27:00 PM 602472 in reply to 498111

    RE: Upcomming Star Wars movies

    My understanding when it comes to the movies and novels is this...Lucas controls all.

    He has stated (so I've heard) that he has no intention of creating sequels due to the fact that the books have covered that part of time quite well.  In order for any books (or series thereof) to be published by an author he has to approve it. 

    Episode I was bad.  Episode II was an improvement..hell, a vast improvment in my book over EP1.  I do hope that EPIII will tie in with the originals nicely, though how he'll cover everything is going to be one hell of a push for only a couple-three hours at most. 

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