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Last post 11-13-2005, 3:16 PM by Newborn. 38 replies.
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  •  3/7/2004 9:09:00 PM 501617

    Planned birth

    I read something, (I don't know, two days ago), about parent being able to decide a baby's gender after conception. Now, if you are really intent on having a girl or boy, that's really your business. Then again what's stoping them from making it smater, taller, or stronger then normal people. Would it be right to mess with something so sacred, and would it be safe for the child?

    this maybe old news, but I don't know...

     

  •  3/7/2004 10:43:00 PM 538635 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    that my friend, is genetic manipulation, and yes,i think is wrong, because, in making a child "perfect" you're making all the other failures, it's modified evolution, it's antinatural, not everything antinatural is bad, but they would have an advantage over poor kids, whose parents couldn't afford making them stronger or smarter, if it were equallitarian, it's ok i guess
  •  3/7/2004 11:47:00 PM 538932 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    No, even then it wouldn't be. Imagine the strain on the child, once his parents make him "perfect", then expect him to be perfect in school, perfect with people, perfect manners, perfect athletics, etc. They make him "perfect", then think he'll be perfect in all aspects. Imagine the pressure and the strain on the poor kid.
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  •  3/8/2004 12:57:00 AM 539011 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    I'd say that it's the child's choice what gender it wants to be born as, but that's impossible, for obvious reasons. I would personally prefer that people keep the gender as it were, though of course, with government regulation it could compensate for population control and such, Something to be considered, if not taken up.

    Improving someone's attributes? Same deal. Like the gender issue, would be great if the kid could make a conscious decision, but not possible. Improving the human race as a whole is an interesting subject. Sort of an artificial evolution. Nevertheless, I doubt this would happen soon, and I hope that it doesn't degenerate into commercial business.

    The best position for the government to adopt is probably to sit on pre-birth genetic tampering. It's probably what they'll agree on, too. Limited use for scientific purposes, but no experiments on human embryos.

  •  3/8/2004 5:31:00 AM 538419 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    personally I think the only tapmering that should EVER be done would be splicing afer birth cause like.. maybe the child that when grows up wants to have different kind of eyes so they have themselves spliced with cat eyes or soemthing.. and to enhance human lifespan and slow the aging process.... just the things to make life more enjoyable.. filter out birth defects like being limp... or something... not make someone perfect just make them so they arne't at a disadvantage.. and I DO believe it should be OPTIONAL for all people not just the wealthy..

     

    genetics however.. yes.. I do believe it is unnatural but then again so is telling someone that they can't do something just cause you think its wrong... to them it might be wrong but they might wana do it anyway cause they think they can parent the outcoming child better after the modifications.. I don't condone this but don't you think its better then abortion?


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  •  3/8/2004 7:08:00 AM 538975 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    Much better than abortion
  •  3/8/2004 3:45:00 PM 539433 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    Think of the implacations this will have in countries such as China, where girl babies are often left to die. Everyone will select male offspring, and the lack of girls that is already a problem in that country will increase tenfold.
  •  3/8/2004 3:59:00 PM 536763 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    you forget that I don't condone sex change at birth.. thats not what I believe in.. re-read my post and try to understand my point of view a bit more.. changing their sex is not something I'd want done before birth.. but after birth shosen by the subject.
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  •  3/8/2004 5:22:00 PM 537263 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    Yes, wonderful idea. Won't the world be so wonderful when it's filled with clones of three people, and nothing more?[/sarcasm]
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  •  3/8/2004 6:38:00 PM 536765 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    I aslo didn't condone cloning.. which if you'd really read what I posted you'd've understood.
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  •  3/8/2004 8:35:00 PM 537276 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    I wasn't talking about cloning. I was referring to everyone making the perfect child. Supreme in every aspect, yadda yadda. About 3-5 different kids per gender, basically, since a lot of people have the same view of perfection.
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  •  3/9/2004 7:30:00 PM 538636 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    genetic manipulation works, but in the way of improving a birth defect, not enhance a healthy one, or control against the nature of the fetus
  •  3/10/2004 6:26:00 AM 539102 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    if you had READ what i said then you might have understood that I didn't CONDONE any of those things.. only making it where things like downs syndrome and suchness aren't a problem anymore or clubs foot and suchness.. getting rid of birth defects that HINDER human developement or cause EXTREME pain or discomfort emotionally or physically.. I have a friend with downs syndrome and he nearly hates himself for it cause he catches onto things ever so slowly at times and he hates how it hinders him...

     

    thats what I believe genetics should be used for... NOT perfections cause humans cannot be perfect in this stage of our own evolution. *sigh* genetics sould only be used to improve life and happiness in life..  thats all.. making people immune to diseases is kinda iffy.. albeit it would make it where people wouldn't be sick and suchness.. but then if osmething mutated and managed to get someoen sick they wouldn't have ahd contact with it before so they'd be quite suseptible to it..

     

    but I did not condone trying to make the perfect child just making it so genetic defects and birth defects aren't a problem.. so pelase read carefuly these words cause like it or not we ARE coming to times where genetics are going to be apart of everyday life.. maybe not in our lifetime but truely it will happen even if those against it try stopping it its going to happen. even if only for a brief time.


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  •  3/10/2004 9:50:00 AM 539238 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    Technically, perfection is in the eye of the beholder. It's relative for things like this.

    One man may think that the perfect child would be a quarterback with huge muscles and a powerful attitude.

    Another could think that the perfect child would be a member of Mensa, with an IQ higher than any in his school.

    It all depends on how you define the perfect child. So yes, Neko, perfection is possible of human beings, because who else's view of perfect are we to follow? If a person wanted to make the perfect child, he would make it his ideal child. With genetics, it may be possible to do that.

    Again, I am heavily against that. I just wanted to point out that humans are, in fact, capable of perfection, because it would be perfection in their own eyes.


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  •  3/10/2004 7:32:00 PM 544713 in reply to 501617

    RE: Planned birth

    Just a thought,

    What if genetics were used for military purposes. (bullet-proof skin, super strenth, and the like)

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