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Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

Last post 05-01-2006, 9:11 PM by mooncity. 42 replies.
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  •  8/29/2004 12:52:14 PM 685555 in reply to 500697

    RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    Like what Spree? What changes?
    ...wee?
  •  8/30/2004 3:35:39 AM 683451 in reply to 500697

    RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    I dunno, I guess we'll find out soon enough though.

    On another note, it was nice to see the 200,000 or so Americans protesting against Bush/the war yesterday. Finally we're hearing the truth from the mouths of the American public, and not just more generic propaganda, the truth that the invasion of Iraq and the general racism that governments today are instigating was just a device for Bush to keep himself in power.

  •  8/30/2004 12:34:25 PM 684290 in reply to 500697

    RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    Fahrenheit 9/11 pretty much exposed a lot of things like that.
    ...wee?
  •  8/31/2004 2:45:41 AM 684248 in reply to 500697

    RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    I haven't seen that yet, and I probably never will because it won't tell me anything new. Also because Michael Moore is a hypocritical *******.... but America needs him.
  •  8/31/2004 2:18:05 PM 685553 in reply to 500697

    RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    It's actually quite funny, though my parents fell asleep and later said, "He's just saying things out of context"...

    ...strange they could make any judgements at all when they only saw the 1st quarter of the film...

    (though something like this http://pages.infinit.net/noc/pentagon.swf might make you think)
    ...wee?
  •  9/3/2004 7:13:51 AM 688013 in reply to 500697

    RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    My take on politics:

    1.  All politicians say what they think people want to hear.  That's their job.

    2. Politics, although they are commonly ruled by money, are really just glorified power trips.  That's why any decent sports star can easily take more money than the "leader of the free world".

    3.  Like it or not there are only 2 major players as far as political parties go.  The choice is all too often between the lesser of 2 evils.

    4.  Voting is a a privilege, but the system is so watered down that you can't vote on one topic at a time.  Instead you vote on people and hope what they said they would vote for once they're in office will hold true if they get into office.  You follow?  The errors with this process are those of human nature itself.

    5.  People should have to take competency test on what they are voting for.  Just because you vote doesn't mean you have to know what you voted for.  I follow the media enough to have a decent grasp on what kind of information I'm being fed.  It's up to me to read between the lines and filter out all lies and half truths.  All too often people just base their votes on what some other less than informed person has told them.

    6.  Ever wonder why we don't have impeachments more regularly?  I'll tell you why, the whole process is rigged. 

    7.  What bothers me most about politics is the representation of the 2 main parties by an elephant and donkey, mule, or jackass (however you want to look at it).  Why do these 2 serious parties who deal with very serious issues feel the need to use mascots?  And why those mascots?  Wouldn't a cat and dog be more suitable since they rarely ever get along?  At least cats and dogs are commonly seen across the U.S.  Or why not just stick with the colors red and blue?  At least that makes for a patriotic map at election time when showing how divided our country seems to be.  And the color system is still serious enough to warn us of any imminent attacks.  

  •  9/3/2004 12:23:36 PM 685944 in reply to 500697

    RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    This country couldn't get a good president if our lives depended on it.
    No one can give us what we want without pissing someone else off.
    ...My wings were just so tasty.


    I love mankind, it's people I can't stand.
  •  9/4/2004 1:44:18 AM 687367 in reply to 500697

    RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    *can't wait for a pink elephants division of the republican party*

    Really, there is generally at least 3 people that are somewhat noticable...the only problem is that people will say, who's that guy? They only know the 2 people because they're represented and they are commericialized. The only 3rd guy I've seen is Rosse Perot, during the Dole and Cliton election (excuse me if I misspelled it), but he had tons of money to go and make commericals with.

    Last time I checked the Polls.

    Kerry - %46 (I think)
    Bush - %49 (I think)
    Someguy - %3 (I know)

    Bush knows how to make some good proposals apparently...
    ...wee?
  •  12/13/2005 3:52:18 PM 763533 in reply to 687367

    Re: RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    America is America, if you don't like the way the country is. . . . .GET OUT. What are you gonna do about it that hasn't been done already and failed, misserably! America is America because people like you have the right to say what you think. People used to die, and still are, just for the honor to step foot in this Great country! Think if you were in a country that doesn't give you the rights and privliges we do. you would spout out some crap about their sytem, and get exicuted or beheaded. I am so sick and tired of people complaining about every thing, people who think life ows them a living. Well, I tell you now, I am proud as hell of my country, my commander in cheif, Political system,the troops fighting across seas four our political system that you "Hate so much". You left wingers are never satisfied with anything. Let me ask you a questoin: What political system would you prefer_____

    a)communism-a place where every one "is a winner"

    b)islam-if you dissagree w/ anything, you die

    c) nazi-causes mass blood shed because of bordome

    Taking off of what Akira said. Did you know that Bush had the most votes for presidents in American history.

  •  1/8/2006 12:31:17 AM 765099 in reply to 763533

    Re: RE: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    "America is America, if you don't like the way the country is. . . . .GET OUT."

    That's directly against the principle of having a democratic government.  The US is supposed to be a democracy, but even if one person didn't like 'the way the country is' then that person should attempt to change that way, not run away from it.  For someone using the name 'Thor', you sure don't show the bravery attributed to that name.


    "Well, I tell you now, I am proud as hell of my country, my commander in cheif, Political system,the troops fighting across seas four our political system that you "Hate so much"."

    I'm also quite proud of this country, but not it's political system.

    I'm not so proud of G.W. Bush.  I pity him.  He's been psychologically beaten down and it shows.  But he only says either what he's been told to say or he says things he obviously doesn't know anything about.  He shouldn't be President and I don't consider him my commander in chief.  I didn't choose him to that position and I don't accept the method used to put him there.

    I'm quite proud of the troops, though.  They're putting up with one hell of a lot of crap and they have yet to openly rebel like troops did in Vietnam.  However, they aren't fighting for our country, which is what they're supposed to be doing.  They aren't fighting for our political system, either.  They're fighting to allow US corporations to operate in Iraq.  All other reasons have been debunked.


    "Taking off of what Akira said. Did you know that Bush had the most votes for presidents in American history."

    The winner is elected by the percentage of votes in favor, not how many votes were counted.  I suggest you brush-up on the process.


    "What political system would you prefer?"

    I certainly don't prefer corporatism, which is what the US is using at this time.  Nor do I like the previous method of democracy which is what allowed the US to screw up so badly.  I would prefer a mix of pure communism and democracy, where the people are led into a communist lifestyle, but retain the right to elect leaders; however, I also believe that democracy must be an educated one, where the people know who the candidates are and what they're qualifications are as well as a democracy where the candidates are more rigidly qualified for the positions and are more rigidly monitored while in office.  Such an idea is smothered by corporatism.  The last thing a corporation wants is for the people to have power over it and stupid followers are cheaper and more obediant than educated ones.


    So... 'Thor'... how many of those pointless support-the-troups ribbons do you have displayed on your vehicle's backside
    ?  And can you explain to us why you are so uneducated on a subject you are obviously very sensitive about?
  •  1/25/2006 6:27:28 PM 766316 in reply to 500697

    Re: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    Lol. If Green Party doesn't even have a chance in Canada, forget about it in the land of corporate puppets.
  •  4/16/2006 8:32:57 PM 774853 in reply to 766316

    Re: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    Hey look! It's the two symbols of the Govt'(goverment). An elephant and a big fat white guy threatened by change.*laughs*
    Gotta get this monkey off my back. Hey! Get off! *monkey screeching*
  •  5/1/2006 9:11:14 PM 776442 in reply to 774853

    Re: Are any other Americans sick and tired of our political system?

    Sadly, we must face the facts.

    First, all politicians are bought and paid for. There are precious few Mr. Smiths going to Washington. There may be a representative or two in the House who's a Mr. Smith, but not in the Senate (they are too few, and wield too much power).

    Second, Presidents are simply figureheads. They, like Congress, are beholden to power players off in the shadows (corporations and the like). Bush is no exception. If Kerry or Gore had been elected, then instead of Iraq or Halliburton, there'd be some other scandal.

    Third, I don't think we really would want a large number of parties vying for power. Three is about the max you can have and still get anything done. If you disagree, look at Israel or Russia. They have so many political parties in office, they can't have an actual concessus on day-to-day issues, and are constantly running into gridlock and stalemates.

    Fourth, ever since I can remember, anyone running for President always talks about what America, the middle class, or the poor "need," "want," "have to have," "are suffering from," etc. But every person running for President with even an outside chance of being elected is a millionaire. Ever ask yourself, how could a millionaire, who was either born into, married into, or made his millions decades ago, know or understand what the poor or middle class are going through today? And why would a millionaire care about any of us regular folk, what we need, want, have to have, or even what we have to say or think about things? Remember Bush Sr. being so amazed by the technology behind a commonplace grocery checkout scanner?

    Fifth, your vote in a Presidential election doesn't mean as much as you think. Remember, it isn't the POPULAR vote that elects presidents, but the electoral college. Otherwise, Bush would not have gotten in there in 2000.

    Sixth, politicians are like actors. They take on a persona, a role. They play a part. These guys are so polished, practiced, and robotic these days, you can't tell what one truly beleives or what they don't. Like actors, they all have techniques and tricks to give a performance. Politicians on BOTH sides use exactly the same gimmicks and techniques to diss their opponent. They're as transparent as glass, but people really buy the guff they spout as if it were gospel.

    Seventh, until we get the money out of politics, our woes will never, ever, change. Is it any wonder that so many lawyers, businessmen, and the like go into politics? They make the laws that govern their own professions. The sad fact is, we have the fox guarding the henhouse.

    Eighth, rhetoric is always a stand-in for action with these clowns. People angry about Iraq? Simple! Let's raise an emotional, hot-button topic, like illegal immigration. A serious topic, no doubt, but a diversionary and divisive topic to raise just now. People mad about the economy? Hey, let's talk about flag-burning. People mad about some scandal? Talk about tax cuts. You get the idea.

    I could go on and on, but there's no point. People are sheep, and will vote whichever way they're told by whoever controls the outlets of information. I don't think there is any such a thing as an honest politician, and sadly, if there ever was one, I don't think there ever will be again.


    Reversing the polarity of neutron flow since 1976!
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