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  •  8/27/2006 9:29:59 PM 786147 in reply to 786095

    Re: Auto Racing (revived)

    It was a pretty straight forward Bristol race, it actually lacked the multitude of wrecks and tempers that usually flare at the place

    Kurt Busch led from pole, but the car that would dominate the early portion of the race and a good portion of the race entirely, would be Jeff Burton who started from outside pole.  And this would set up a pattern in the race.  Jeff Burton leads a while under a long green flag run, but as time would go on, his car would start to fade, and it really didnt help matters that he was in lapped traffic after only a handful of laps.  And then this would lead to Matt Kenseth taking over the lead from Jeff Burton.  Kenseth was clearly the 2nd fastest car early in runs but by far the fastest car on long green flag runs.  Behind them, Kevin Harvick, Kurt Busch and Jeff Gordon were battling amongst themselves to round out the top 5.  And then the last part of the pattern would be, the long green flag run would end when someone cuts down a tire, causing caution.  Of course tire issues are very rare at Bristol because usually green flag runs are short and sweet with plenty of cautions to cool tires down.  In this case, there were green flag runs and the track itself was coming apart, which made it treacherous on tires.  The first victim of the tire would be Sterling Marlin, he crashed causing the first caution around lap 60 of 500.

    There were a couple short green flag runs interrupted by a pair of accidents (Kyle Petty getting bumped by Dave Blaney, sending Petty into the wall and then David Gilliland breaking loose and smacking the wall).  Kurt Busch led for a brief period after pitstops but Jeff Burton was able to reclaim lead without much issue.  Under the Gilliland caution at lap 115, different pit strategies finally presented  themselves.  First off, Mark Martin's nightmare night started when he was caught pitting outside his box, which is a 1 lap penalty.  He would never make that lap up and later got involved in an accident because he was mired in traffic.  Bristol always brings out some different pit strategies because of the difficulties of passing on the track.  Earnhardt Jr and Edwards both took only 2 tires and took the lead after that, they battled amongst themselves for the lead, trading off when Earnhardt Jr got loose off a turn, opening the door for Edwards to lead.  But it only took 30 laps before Burton was able to reclaim lead from the more ill handling cars. 

    And once again the pattern showed itself, Burton leading under a long green flag run.  However instead of Kenseth taking the lead it would be Jeff Gordon at lap 180.  This was followed by a tire failure, this time Kevin Harvick, who was running 3rd.  He dropped to 35th but would recover to finish 11th in the race.

    Burton would get lead after pitstops.  And caution would fly pretty quickly afterwards with Wimmer having a bad restart and Mark Martin rearending him.  Wimmer deposited debris on track, causing caution.  Shortly afterwards under the next green condition, Reed Sorenson cut a tire down, tried to stay on track but then bogged the leaders down.  He got tagged by Kurt Busch, who had nowhere to go to dodge the incredibly slow Sorenson.  He did damage to his tire well.  Sorenson meanwhile spun and did a nose-dive into the wall.  Almost immediately after the restart, Clint Bowyer would crash when his rear tire came loose, sending him into a spin in a shower of sparks and into the wall.

    Burton would then lead a HUGE chunk of race under the next green condition.  He would lead from lap 219 to 317 before, yep, Matt Kenseth, managed to come back and take the lead.  Kenseth would lead until, yep, another tire failure, this time David Stremme, who slapped the wall hard, knocking his suspension out of whack.  Burton would get lead after pitstops and led until the next caution which was caused at lap 380 when Elliott Sadler spun with Joe Nemechek, sending Nemechek into the wall and Sadler into the innocent Yeley who was trying to dodge the accident. 

    Earnhardt Jr reinherited the lead after doing more pitstrategy but he would be easy pickens for Matt Kenseth after leading 15 laps.  Kenseth would take the lead from his rival and friend and put a rather dominant look to the last 1/5 of the race.   The only hiccup happened when Elliott Sadler spun on his own and crashed hard in the turn 3 wall, nearly collecting Earnhardt Jr.  Kenseth had to relinquish the lead for a lap before taking it right back and leading the rest of the way to win his 2nd in a row.  Kyle Busch had a great car late and was actually catching Kenseth, but it was too little too late, as he had been invisible most all the race but finally got the setup right, just not enough time.

    Behind him, Scott Riggs was battling Jeff Gordon hard for the 4th spot.  The 2 rubbed eachother pretty hard for a couple turns before Gordon gave way.  I felt it was great short track racing, but the 2 didnt really like it all too much

    Fin St Car Driver Make Sponsor Pts/Bonus Laps Status
    14#17Matt Kenseth Ford DEWALT185/5500Running
    219#5Kyle Busch Chevrolet Kellogg's175/5500Running
    340#8Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet Budweiser170/5500Running
    423#10Scott Riggs Dodge Valvoline/Stanley Tools160/0500Running
    513#24Jeff Gordon Chevrolet DuPont160/5500Running
    66#11Denny Hamlin *Chevrolet FedEx Freight150/0500Running
    739#99Carl Edwards Ford Office Depot151/5500Running
    821#12Ryan Newman Dodge ALLTEL Fastap142/0500Running
    92#31Jeff Burton Chevrolet Cingular Wireless148/10500Running
    1018#48Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's134/0500Running
    117#29Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Reese's130/0500Running
    1231#9Kasey Kahne Dodge Dodge Dealers/UAW127/0500Running
    1317#21Ken Schrader Ford U.S. Air Force124/0500Running
    1422#22Dave Blaney Dodge Caterpillar121/0500Running
    1532#88Dale Jarrett Ford UPS118/0499Running
    1629#55Michael Waltrip Dodge NAPA Auto Parts115/0499Running
    1711#42Casey Mears Dodge Texaco/Havoline112/0499Running
    1824#1Martin Truex Jr. *Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops/Tracker109/0499Running
    1935#16Greg Biffle Ford National Guard/Charter Communications106/0499Running
    2028#32Travis Kvapil Chevrolet Tide-Downy103/0499Running
    2112#49Kevin Lepage Dodge LoansDepot.com100/0498Running
    225#20Tony Stewart Chevrolet The Home Depot97/0498Running
    233#43Bobby Labonte Dodge Cheerios/Hamburger Helper94/0498Running
    2416#66Jeff Green Chevrolet CertainTeed91/0498Running
    2534#96Tony Raines Chevrolet DLP HDTV88/0498Running
    2641#01Joe Nemechek Chevrolet U.S. Army85/0498Running
    2742#7Robby Gordon Chevrolet Jim Beam82/0498Running
    2815#6Mark Martin Ford AAA79/0496Running
    2937#26Jamie McMurray Ford Sharpie76/0496Running
    3026#178Kenny Wallace Chevrolet Furniture Row Racing73/0493Running
    3125#18J.J. Yeley *Chevrolet Interstate Batteries70/0492Running
    3214#14Sterling Marlin Chevrolet Ginn Clubs & Resorts67/0490Running
    3320#25Brian Vickers Chevrolet GMAC64/0487Running
    348#45Kyle Petty Dodge Marathon American Spirit Motor Oil61/0481Running
    3536#40David Stremme *Dodge Coors Light58/0468Running
    3610#41Reed Sorenson *Dodge Target55/0460Running
    371#2Kurt Busch Dodge Miller Lite57/5446Running
    3827#07Clint Bowyer *Chevrolet Jack Daniel's49/0415Running
    399#19Elliott Sadler Dodge Dodge Dealers/UAW46/0395Accident
    4038#38David Gilliland Ford M&M's43/0346Running
    4130#34Carl Long Chevrolet Front Row Motorsports40/0256Mechanical
    4243#4Scott Wimmer Chevrolet Bully Hill Vineyards/Food City37/0209Engine
    4333#74Derrike Cope Dodge Sundance Vacations/Royal Admin. Svcs34/07Mechanical

    Points:
    Rank +/- Driver Points Behind Starts Poles Wins Top 5 Top 10
    1--Jimmie Johnson3499Leader2414818
    2--Matt Kenseth3492-724041314
    3--Kevin Harvick3178-32124021013
    4+3Kyle Busch3097-4022411813
    5+1Jeff Gordon3091-4082402911
    6+2Denny Hamlin*3070-4292422412
    7+2Jeff Burton3064-4352440414
    8-3Tony Stewart3056-44324021013
    9+1Dale Earnhardt Jr.3051-4482401711
    10-6Mark Martin3049-4502400511
    11--Kasey Kahne2959-5402444712
    12--Greg Biffle2798-7012421511
    13--Carl Edwards2788-7112400712
    14--Kurt Busch2659-840244158
    15+3Ryan Newman2586-913242027
    16+1Casey Mears2564-935240015
    17-2Brian Vickers2548-951240035
    18-2Jamie McMurray2531-968240037
    19+3Scott Riggs2477-1022231016
    20-1Clint Bowyer*2463-1036240026
    21-1Elliott Sadler2395-1104241016
    22-1Reed Sorenson*2384-1115240015
    23--Martin Truex Jr.*2384-1115240002
    24--Robby Gordon2260-1239240012
    25--Bobby Labonte2256-1243240014
    26--Dale Jarrett2238-1261240002
    27--Jeff Green2136-1363240000
    28--J.J. Yeley*2113-1386240002
    29--Dave Blaney2067-1432240000
    30+1Ken Schrader2044-1455240001
    31-1Joe Nemechek2029-1470240000
    32--Kyle Petty1904-1595240001
    33--Sterling Marlin1888-1611240001
    34--David Stremme*1742-1757220000
    35+1Michael Waltrip1678-1821230000

    Next week they go to California

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  •  8/28/2006 9:21:31 AM 786166 in reply to 785860

    Re: Auto Racing (revived)

    NASCAR Michigan: Matt Kenseth had the best over the entire race distance, his gamble of staying out of the pits paid off, allowing him to jump ahead of Edwards and Earnhardt Jr. He really deserved to win the race and drove very well. Jeff Gordon was always thereabouts in the race but ran out of laps in the end to catch and pass Kenseth. Childress had an unlucky day. Harvick made a silly mistake trying to overtake Kenseth in such a fashion. Bowyer though was extremely unlucky to have his engine let go while in 3rd place with just 3 laps left. It would have been only his third top 5 of the year.

    Bristol: Another good win for Matt Kenseth, pity it is all rather meaningless for him at this stage of the year. He's safely into the Chase, hardly matter what he does now until the Chase begins. Jeff Burton only got 9th place after leading a huge amount of the that race, he'll feel that he should have gotten more out of that race. Scott Riggs got a nice result in 4th place, his best result of the year and only top 5 finish.
    I daresay the top ten in the championship will be the Chase contenders. Kasey Kahne is really the only man who can break into the group and he'll need a couple of good weekends.

    F1 Turkish Grand Prix, Istanbul-not-Constantinople Park:
    Aguri
    23. Sakon Yamamoto DNF
    22. Takuma Sato NCF
    The now fully updated Aguri SA06 was pretty much nowhere this weekend, so it was effectively same as usual for the team. Except oddly Yamamoto managed complete more than one lap. Indeed he completed a colossal 23 laps of racing before having a rather silly spin at turn 1. Sato managed to get through the turn 1 chaos and found himself battling in the midfield however he received some damage and was forced to retire. That was until the team fixed the car and sent Sato back out on what I presume was a test session since he was 15 laps down at the time. He finished the race but wasn't classified.

    Toro Rosso
    21. Scott Speed 13th
    20. Vitantonio Liuzzi DNF
    Another man in the silly spin category was Liuzzi. His lazy spin at turn 1 changed the whole complextion of the race and maybe the World Championship and brought out the Safety Car. Before that the Italian had been running quite well and had benefitted from the first corner crashes and offs to find himself quite well up. Scott Speed didn't avoid the collisions at turn one and hit a McLaren. He lost his front wing and needed to pit. After that he did the best he could but the Toro Rosso simply wasn't able to compete and he found himself to prey to almost anyone he was ahead of.

    Midland
    19. Tiago Monteiro DNF
    18. Christijan Albers DNF
    A double DNF on paper looks like a very bad race for Midland amongst more rumours of the team being sold. However what it doesn't show is that Christijan Albers raced superbly right up until he retired in an accident. Albers' pace in the race was excellent and was on course for a strong finish out pacing, Speed, Coulthard and the BMW Saubers. It's a pity Albers then spun off, which I guess sums him up at the moment; he can do some very good things but then undo them with some stupidity. Monteiro was a victim of the first lap crashes.

    BMW Sauber
    17. Robert Kubica 12th
    16. Nick Heidfeld 14th
    Kubica will be disappointed with only 12th place. He ran strongly in the points early on before slipping away down the field being overtaken a lot. Kubica fought hard to keep those places but the BMW Sauber doesn't quite have the race pace at the moment. Nick Heidfeld was involved in the first lap crashes and needed his nose replaced. What's more his car had suffered some bad handling problems that made him just about the slowest car on track (except for the Aguris obviously).

    Red Bull
    15. Christian Klien 11th
    14. David Coulthard 15th
    What on Earth was Christian Klien doing into that first corner? He steamed so much faster than anyone else, tyres completely locked. Yet somehow he got through it in just about one piece. Amazing luck for the Austrian who looks to be on his way to DTM or Champ Cars next year. After running in 8th early on he faded backwards and was ultimately going to be beaten by his team mate, Coulthard until the Scot suffered some car problems in the closing laps and was forced to pit.

    Honda
    12. Jenson Button 4th
    11. Rubens Barrichello 8th
    Lets face it no one was expecting Honda to repeat their victory but still I think Honda did well in Turkey. Rubens Barrichello was at the heart of a lot of action in the race. He passed so many cars I lost track of who and when the Brazilian overtook. Still somehow I think Barrichello will feel 8th place is scant reward for such effort. Button on the other hand didn't really have to put in any effort at all. He just avoided the carnage at turn one, he passed Mark Webber within a couple of laps for 4th place and then that was it. The Englishman never had the car capable of keeping up with the lead three but he was easily safe from anyone behind him.

    Williams
    10. Nico Rosberg DNF
    9. Mark Webber 10th
    Mark Webber didn't retire! But then he didn't have the pace to get points today either. Just Williams' luck at the moment. Webber ran well early on, surviving turn 1 and fighting to hold onto 5th place. However faster were recovering behind the Australian and soon passed him. Rosberg was running in the points though I think he would have been in a similar position to Webber if it wasn't for a water pressure problem.

    Toyota
    8. Jarno Trulli 9th
    7. Ralf Schumacher 7th
    A so-so race for Toyota. Ralf Schumacher did very well to recover from turn 1 and a nose change to get some points. He raced very well and overtook on several occasions. Jarno Trulli was a little less noticeable and I felt perhaps he could have done more to collect some points at the end of the race, remember they're in a direct fight with BMW Sauber for 5th place in the title.

    Ferrari
    6. Felipe Massa 1st
    5. Michael Schumacher 3rd
    Two races, two new winners. This time it was Felipe Massa claiming his first grand prix victory but had the race gone according to plan for Ferrari it would have been Schumacher on the top step and not Massa. Liuzzi's spin at turn 1 caused the Safety Car to come out. This meant teams decided to bring their cars in to re-fuel and take on new tyres. Of course the Ferraris came into the pits but with Massa leading the race that meant he would get serviced first. Schumacher was crucially delayed and that let Alonso get ahead of him. Schumacher spent the remainder of the race trying to recover including the last 15 laps trying to find some way past Alonso. However Schumacher couldn't do it and in truth he looked a little ragged at times this weekend. Felipe Massa by constrast hardly put a wheel wrong and took a very well deserved victory.

    McLaren

    4. Pedro de la Rosa 5th
    3. Kimi Raikkonen DNF
    McLaren are very much in danger of going without a victory in a season for the first time in a decade. Kimi Raikkonen may have had the pace to keep up with the lead three in the race but we shall never know. He was knocked into a spin at the first corner. This shredded his left rear tyre. After having that replaced, it was discovered his rear wheels had been damaged, though this was only found out after he had crashed into a wall. Pedro de la Rosa was also caught up in the first corner melee. He recovered well and cut his way through the field to a creditable 5th place.

    Renault
    2. Giancarlo Fisichella 6th
    1. Fernando Alonso 2nd
    Mixed fortunes for Renault at Istanbul Park. Alonso drove superbly. He withstood enormous pressure from Michael Schumacher in the closing stages of the race while he struggled on heavily blistered tyres. He increased his championship lead by two crucial points which now means he just has to finish 2nd (heck he can even claim one 4th place) in all the remaining four races to win the title. However the Constructors' Title seems to be drifting towards Ferrari. The reason appears to be Ferrari just are quicker at the moment and that Giancarlo Fisichella simply isn't keep his end up at Renault. He spun at turn 1 and then had his front wing taken off, but perhaps he could have avoided the spin. 6th is not good enough for Renault to win the title and indeed for Fisichella to beat Massa in the 3rd place battle in the Drivers' Title.

    Result
    1. Felipe Massa Ferrari
    2. Fernando Alonso Renault
    3. Michael Schumacher Ferrari
    4. Jenson Button Honda
    5. Pedro de la Rosa McLaren-Mercedes
    6. Giancarlo Fisichella Renault
    7. Ralf Schumacher Toyota
    8. Rubens Barrichello Honda
    9. Jarno Trulli Toyota
    10. Mark Webber Williams-Cosworth
    11. Christian Klien Red Bull-Ferrari
    12. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber
    13. Scott Speed Toro Rosso-Cosworth
    14. David Coulthard Red Bull-Ferrari
    15. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber
    DNF. Chrisitjan Albers Midland-Toyota
    NCF. Takuma Sato Aguri-Honda
    DNF. Nico Rosberg Williams-Cosworth
    DNF. Sakon Yamamoto Aguri-Honda
    DNF. Vitantonio Liuzzi Toro Rosso-Cosworth
    DNF. Kimi Raikkonen McLaren-Mercedes
    DNF. Tiago Monteiro Midland-Toyota

    Midland: Word is now that the owner of the Dutch, Lost Boys company is planning not only to buy Midland but also Dutch sportscar manufacturer, Spyker. Lost Boys owner, Michiel Mols is the process of buying out Spyker and is also in talks with Midland owner, Alex Schneider about purchasing the team. If these deals come together it could see Midland being re-named Spyker and lets face it, that's a much better name Wink [;)]. If the deal comes together then Christijan Albers would surely remain with the team with the second seat likely going to one of Midland's current testers, Manfred Winkelhock or Adrian Sutil. I also hope any Spyker F1 team would include some lovely Dutch orange on their cars (no more red, white or blue please!).

    BTCC: Mark Proctor will be racing at Knockhill this coming weekend. Proctor decided to do Knockhill after the encouragement and support he received from fans at Snetterton and online. Fan power works!

    Adam Jones will be returning in the Xero Competition Lexus. The car has had some updates so will hopefully prove to be more competitive.

    Team Griffin Racing have said they have found the cause of the engine problems that have blighted them since entering at Donington Park with their Peugeot 307. They have had to do some more modifications to the engine. Apparently this problem with the engine has been with the car since it was first designed in 2003 for Vic Lee Racing.

    Eoin Murray won't be taking part at Knockhill as his car received more damage than previously thought at Snetterton. Due to an extremely tight budget the team decided it was to miss the round in East Fife and concentrate on getting the car ready for next round at Brands Hatch in 4 weeks time.

    Also missing due to car damage eating away at the budget is Fiona Leggate in the Tech-speed Vauxhall. They too will be back at Brands Hatch.

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  •  9/2/2006 9:05:31 AM 786361 in reply to 786166

    Re: Auto Racing (revived)

    BTCC
    Entry Changes:
    14. James Thompson SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon (OUT: WTCC priority, replaced by Darren Turner)
    17. Eoin Murray Quest Racing Alfa Romeo 156 (OUT: Budget)
    21. Adam Jones Xero Competition Lexus IS200 (IN: Returning)
    24. Darren Turner SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon (IN: Replacing James Thompson)
    66. Mark Smith In-front Motorsport Alfa Romeo 156 (OUT: Business Commitments)
    82. Fiona Leggate Tech-speed Motorsport Vauxhall Astra coupe (OUT: Budget)
    90. Erkut Kizilirmak VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch (OUT: Turkish Championship priority)

    Murray and Leggate skipping Knockhill due to budget reasons, they’ll be back next time. Mark Smith is missing from this round because of previous commitments to his job, Smith said that it should hopefully give the team enough time to sort out the problems still on the car after their startline shunt at Donington Park in July. Xero Competition come back with their Lexus IS200, it has had updates so should be a bit better. Kizilirmak and Thompson are driving abroad this weekend so Darren Turner comes in for the third time in the SEAT.

    Ballast:
    Matt Neal 45kg
    Colin Turkington 36kg
    Gareth Howell 30kg
    Jason Plato 27kg
    Darren Turner 18kg
    Richard Marsh 15kg
    Gordon Shedden 9kg

    A quick note, following Jason Hughes’ switch to bio-ethanol fuel, both West Surrey Racing cars have now followed suit. At a crucial stage in the championship, Colin Turkington will be hoping that the bio-ethanol fuel will give him a performance boost. I’d imagine WSR were looking at Hughes’ data and must have seen an improvement in performance due to the bio-ethanol.

    Knockhill Qualifying:
    1. Jason Plato SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon 57.467s
    2. Darren Turner SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon +0.140s
    3. Fabrizio Giovanardi VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch +0.210
    4. Gordon Shedden Team Dynamics Honda Integra Type-R +0.253
    5. Matt Neal Team Dynamics Honda Integra Type-R +0.366
    6. Colin Turkington West Surrey Racing MG ZS +0.756
    7. Gareth Howell Team Dynamics Honda Integra Type-R +0.838
    8. James Kaye Synchro Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R +0.860
    9. Rob Collard West Surrey Racing MG ZS +0.885
    10. Tom Chilton VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch +0.887
    11. Mark Proctor Fast-tec Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R +0.916
    12. Mike Jordan Team Eurotech Honda Integra Type-R +0.916
    13. Gavin Smith VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch +1.050
    14. Jason Hughes Kartworld Racing MG ZS +1.585
    15. Dave Pinkney Motorbase Performance Honda Integra Type-R +1.860
    16. Martyn Bell Geoff Steel Racing BMW 320.i E46 +2.323
    17. Adam Jones Xero Competition Lexus IS200 No Time
    18. Richard Marsh Team Griffin Racing Peugeot 307 No Time

    Jason Plato just nicked pole from Gordon Shedden in the dying seconds. In fact Shedden was mugged at the end of the session after holding pole from the beginning he finds himself lining up in 4th place on his home circuit. Darren Turner looking good in 2nd place. Colin Turkington behind Matt Neal and in the middle of a swarm of Team Dynamics Hondas. James Kaye and Mark Proctor looking very good. Mike Jordan could have been right up there but lost his fastest times after missing the weighbridge. Pinkney will be very disappointed while Jones and Marsh had car damage after the practice sessions.

    Practice 1
    Practice 2

    Picks:
    1. Gordon Shedden
    2. Colin Turkington
    3. Matt Neal

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  •  9/2/2006 12:22:26 PM 786367 in reply to 786361

    Re: Auto Racing (revived)

    Re: Aguri--Well they picked up 3 seconds from their old pace which is incredibly good, but youre right, it amounted to nothing.  Yamamoto actually got to see the full track at full speed, wow!  Sato actually didnt avoid the chaos in turn 1 which is why he went many laps down.  He was the car that collided with the Midland.  But not to worry, none of our announcers caught that either, I just kept a sharp eye in the replays

    Re: STR--Yeah bad luck for both guys.  Liuzzi had that silly spin, a big spin, youre right.  Changed the race and perhaps the championship.  Speed had that lap 1 turn 1 accident and really it was all downhill from there.

    Re: Midland--Yeah, actually both Midlands did EXTREMELY well before wrecking.  Its a shame for Monteiro that his accident happened about 500 feet into the race.  I hope they become Spyker, those cars are awesome.  But unreliable things. 

    Re: BMW--Not too good for them in the long run.  Both became moving road blocks by the end of it.  Heidfeld was absurdly off the pace, finding his inner Forti.  Kubica looked good early and went plop

    Re: RBR--Their team highlight really was Klien's first lap stuff.  Of course it didnt last and it became a pointless weekend for RBR and their satellite team, STR.

    Re: Honda--Youre right, that was a solid performance for them.  Honda is the best of the rest right now and could be competing with McLaren for grid positions easily.  Jenson had a good race here last year too, I think he likes this place.  Barrichello did well but that 8th doesnt justify it really.

    Re: Williams--Not much to say really.

    Re: Toyota--I got to see several of Ralf's passes, quite entertaining stuff I must say.  Jarno, well he was the opposite of entertaining.

    Re: Ferrari--Well it was a great weekend all around for Massa, and a really fantastic result too.  And I couldnt be happier for him.  He was exstatic and showed us how to celebrate on the podium.  Really a great young driver with all kinds of spirit.  Way to get em!  Granted circumstance did help him.  Im sure Ferrari were devising ways that Massa would have to give up the lead to Schumacher but the safety car blew that.  Massa winning would have been far better than Alonso, so they had to forfeit their plans.  Schumacher probably would have found a way around Alonso if he didnt have that silly off around turn 8.  That cost him 14 seconds.  And he lost to Alonso by... .05 sec?

    Re: McLaren--You said it all pretty well.  Good run by DLR, but it will be forgotten in the sands of time.

    Re: Renault--Yeah you said everything about the drivers title really.  This was a great race for them in that sense.  Bad race for the manufacturers title.  Ill tell you why its turned around.  Renault's car last year and this year depended on some contraption, some sort of air pressure thing.  It has been ruled illegal effective a few weeks ago, which is why their car just isnt very fast anymore and Ferrari has pushed ahead.  Without that aero thing they had, their car just is a shell of its former self.  Still fast but no longer having the edge.

    --------------------

    Re: BTCC--

    I hope Hughes goes well with the bio-ethanol.  Apparently it looks like things are going moderately average at the moment for them.

    Shedden was robbed of the pole I think.  I think he needed to be turning extra fast laps as the session closed when SEAT got that huge leap on him.

    My picks:

    1-Plato
    2-Shedden
    3-Neal

    (If you still want to do picks--I havent updated the points in a long time because Ive been waiting for that WRC event a few weeks back Stick out tongue [:P]  You still have a solid lead in all catagories regardless)

    --------------------

    Cup is in California this weekend, a Michigan clone track with less banking

    Heres how qualifying went:

    Pos. Car Driver Make Sponsor Speed Time Behind
    12Kurt BuschDodgeMiller Lite 184.54039.016Leader
    225Brian VickersChevroletGarnier Fructis 184.04939.120-0.104
    307Clint Bowyer*ChevroletJack Daniel's 183.50539.236-0.220
    410Scott RiggsDodgeValvoline/Stanley Tools 183.19739.302-0.286
    51Martin Truex Jr.*ChevroletBass Pro Shops/Tracker 182.95039.355-0.339
    68Dale Earnhardt Jr.ChevroletBudweiser 182.79239.389-0.373
    731Jeff BurtonChevroletCingular Wireless 182.67239.415-0.399
    811Denny Hamlin*ChevroletFedEx Express 182.45439.462-0.446
    99Kasey KahneDodgeDodge Dealers/UAW 182.29239.497-0.481
    105Kyle BuschChevroletKellogg's 182.22339.512-0.496
    1117Matt KensethFordDEWALT 182.20939.515-0.499
    1212Ryan NewmanDodgeSony HDTV 181.95139.571-0.555
    1301Joe NemechekChevroletU.S. Army 181.72239.621-0.605
    1424Jeff GordonChevroletDuPont 181.43839.683-0.667
    1529Kevin HarvickChevroletGM Goodwrench 181.08739.760-0.744
    1648Jimmie JohnsonChevroletLowe's 180.94139.792-0.776
    174Scott WimmerChevroletLucas Oil/Forward Air 180.73639.837-0.821
    1819Elliott SadlerDodgeDodge Dealers/UAW 180.72739.839-0.823
    1918J.J. Yeley*ChevroletImitrex/GSK 180.70939.843-0.827
    2038David GillilandFordPedigree 180.56039.876-0.860
    2116Greg BiffleFordNational Guard/Charter Communications 180.51939.885-0.869
    2220Tony StewartChevroletThe Home Depot 180.18039.960-0.944
    2300Bill ElliottChevroletBurger King 180.09939.978-0.962
    2499Carl EdwardsFordOffice Depot 180.02739.994-0.978
    257Robby GordonChevroletWorld Series of Poker 179.96440.008-0.992
    2644Terry LabonteChevroletGMAC 179.96440.008-0.992
    2714Sterling MarlinChevroletGinn Clubs & Resorts 179.72140.062-1.046
    2843Bobby LabonteDodgeCheerios/Betty Crocker 179.67740.072-1.056
    2921Ken SchraderFordU.S. Air Force 179.64140.080-1.064
    3066Jeff GreenChevrolet"According to Jim"/Best Buy 179.63640.081-1.065
    3126Jamie McMurrayFordSmirnoff Ice 179.46240.120-1.104
    3240David Stremme*DodgeCoors Light 179.42640.128-1.112
    3342Casey MearsDodgeTexaco/Havoline 178.93140.239-1.223
    3441Reed Sorenson*DodgeDiet Pepsi/Target 178.86940.253-1.237
    3545Kyle PettyDodgeSchwan's Home Service 178.74040.282-1.266
    3688Dale JarrettFordUPS 178.54540.326-1.310
    3755Michael WaltripDodgeNAPA Auto Parts 178.50540.335-1.319
    386Mark MartinFordAAA 178.08640.430-1.414
    3949Kevin LepageDodgeLoansDepot.com 177.76540.503-1.487
    4078Kenny WallaceChevroletFurniture Row Racing 177.73840.509-1.493
    4122Dave BlaneyDodgeCaterpillar 176.97840.683-1.667
    4296Tony Raines+ChevroletDLP HDTV 175.31041.070-2.054
    4332Travis KvapilChevroletTide-Downy 177.27440.615-1.599
     
    Did not Qualify
    4406Todd KlueverFord3M Post-it175.94940.921-1.905
    4534Kertus DavisChevroletOak Glove Co.175.38741.052-2.036
    4661Chad ChaffinDodgeOak Gloves/Embassy Suites173.03541.610-2.594
    4723Bill LesterDodgeWaste Management38.107188.939-149.923


    I dont think I have to say that Lester had a problem on his lap.  Didnt see it, but I think it was a spin.

    Kluever a shocking DNQ for Roush Racing.  Maybe Roush was right in saying he isnt ready for Cup, but this is just 1 race for him.  Kluever is the first Roush driver to DNQ since I believe Matt Kenseth in 1998 (Trying to debut at Talladega)



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  •  9/4/2006 5:34:52 PM 786485 in reply to 786367

    Re: Auto Racing (revived)

    I've been not doing the WRC reports mostly because the program keeps shifting time on ITV, sometimes it's after midnight, yesterday it was shown before the BTCC. So I haven't been able to do any reporting on it due to its rough treatment. Sorry.

    Also I forgot to do a NASCAR pick for the weekend but that's self-evident. My BTCC picks were editted into my last post.

    BTCC, Knockhill
    Race 1

    Mike Jordan was suffering from so had to start at the back of the grid. It was wet in the Fife countryside surrounding Knockhill, conditions that would make things interesting. Giovanardi made a very poor start, struggling to get off the line in his Vauxhall. Plato led from Darren Turner into the first corner at Duffus’s Dip. Gordon Shedden tried to go around the outside of Turner into the corner but locked his tyres and skidded on the wet surface almost pitching himself into a spin. Somehow he kept it together and held 3rd place. James Kaye wasn’t so lucky as he ended up bouncing through the gravel trap at the first corner. Gavin Smith overtook Mark Proctor, the Civic driver giving ground. Colin Turkington was not having a good time in the wet conditions which were not suiting his MG at all. He was fending off Gareth Howell but lost out to the Dynamics driver and was passed in quick succession by Giovanardi and Collard.

    There was a nice three way scrap right at the back of the field. Adam Jones and Martyn Bell renewing their rivalry in the only two rear wheel drive cars in the field and Richard Marsh showing much improved pace. Jones had got the upper hand on Bell when both Bell and Marsh ended up bouncing through the gravel at Duffus’s Dip. Bell continued but the gravel claimed Marsh causing some damage to his 307. Ahead of those three was a battle between Kaye, Proctor, Hughes, Pinkney and Jordan. Kaye pulled a late braking move to pass Proctor however this forced both out wide with the other three drivers also nipping passed Proctor. Kaye then had to hold off Mike Jordan. Jordan coming to the Taylor’s Hairpin went for the inside to pass Kaye. Kaye tried to block but clearly mis-judged how close Jordan was to him and ended up catching the rear of the Civic on the front of the Integra. This spun Kaye off the track, into the gravel and out of the race. Kaye’s car was now in a dangerous position so the Safety Car was brought out.

    In this time Gordon Shedden chose to make a pitstop. He had collected plenty of mud and grime on his tyres on the first lap and they weren’t producing any grip, so Dynamics slapped a new set of Dunlops on the car, relegating Shedden to the rear of the field behind Adam Jones. When the race restarted Shedden dispatched Jones quite quickly and set about trying to recover. His recovery drive was brought to a halt a lap later when he had to come into the pits again, this time it was for a drive thru penalty for running the red light at the end of the pitlane.

    The Vauxhalls were beginning to get involved in the action. Giovanardi recovering from his poor start passed Gareth Howell from Duffus’s Dip and into the chicane. Gavin Smith passed his team mate, Tom Chilton at McIntyres but Chilton re-passed the Irishman a lap later. This also allowed Dave Pinkney to drive alongside Smith and pass him into Duffus’s Dip. However on the exit of the corner, Smith ran slightly wide and got a wheel onto the grass. He spun about and slammed into Pinkney, taking them both out of the race. Pinkney was not impressed by Smith’s driving skills and let him (and the rest of the field) know precisely what he thought about the Vauxhall driver. The Safety Car was deployed again to clear up Smith and Pinkney’s cars. Shedden pitted for a third time, apparently a lot of mud had stuck to his wheel archs and was interfering with the handling of the car. Rob Collard retired with a mechanical problem during the Safety Car period.

    Once the Safety Car pulled back in Turner let Plato get a bit of a gap on the restart to ensure no one could challenge his team mate for the race lead. Tom Chilton meanwhile put a wheel on a slippery kerb and spun off the track. Gareth Howell re-passed Fabrizio Giovanardi for 4th place, while Shedden again tried to recover. He passed Jones, Proctor and Hughes over the following laps. While Shedden moved forwards, Turkington was slipping back. He was now having to hold off Mike Jordan’s Honda Integra. Jordan dived up the inside of Turkington at Taylor’s and passed him. Shedden seeing this done exactly the same to Turkington the very next lap.

    Jason Plato comfortably held first place and claimed victory with a good 1-2 for SEAT having Darren Turner finish 2nd. Unfortunately for Turner he wasn’t long in second place. The Stewards had noticed that under the each of the Safety Car restarts Turner had held back from Plato to give him a lead and to bunch the rest of the pack up. Now that’s fine as long as Turner was within 5 car lengths (not entirely sure which car they use for the length) but Turner was further back. This was a similar incident to the ETCC in 2004 where Augusto Farfus had held up the field at Imola to let his Alfa Romeo team mates run off with a huge lead while no one could get by Farfus under Safety Car conditions. So Turner got lumped with a 20 second penalty and ended up in 10th place, however Turner having crossed the line in second place was still entitled to all the success ballast for the next race. Matt Neal had gotten 2nd place with Gareth Howell in 3rd.

    Result
    1. Jason Plato SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon
    2. Matt Neal Team Dynamics Honda Integra Type-R
    3. Gareth Howell Team Dynamics Honda Integra Type-R
    4. Fabrizio Giovanardi VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch
    5. Mike Jordan Team Eurotech Honda Integra Type-R
    6. Gordon Shedden Team Dynamics Honda Integra Type-R
    7. Colin Turkington West Surrey Racing MG ZS
    8. Jason Hughes Kartworld Racing MG ZS
    9. Mark Proctor Fast-tec Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R
    10. Darren Turner SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon
    11. Adam Jones Xero Competition Lexus IS200
    12. Tom Chilton VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch
    DNF. Rob Collard West Surrey Racing MG ZS
    DNF. Dave Pinkney Motorbase Performance Honda Integra Type-R
    DNF. Gavin Smith VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch
    DNF. Martyn Bell Geoff Steel Racing BMW 320.i E46
    DNF. James Kaye Synchro Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R
    DNF. Richard Marsh Team Griffin Racing Peugeot 307
    Fastest Lap:  Gordon Shedden 57.966s

    Race 2
    Usually my race notes take up half a page of paper. Race 2 took up an entire side…

    Griffin Racing decided to skip the second race of the day so they could repair their Peugeot fully for the third race. The Sun also had put in an appearance and most of the track was dryish. Giovanardi did not repeat his woeful race 1 start and found himself going by Gareth Howell before turn 1. Plato held the lead from Neal with Giovanardi in third. Howell had Gordon Shedden trying to come around the outside of him at Duffus’s Dip, both Dynamics drivers being careful not to hit each other, with Howell just holding onto 4th place. Giovanardi followed Neal for most of that lap until he got alongside Neal out of the hairpin and up the start/finish straight. The Vauxhall showed good power and pulled ahead of the Honda and took second place. The next lap Shedden went wide out of Duffus’s Dip letting Mike Jordan and Colin Turkington get passed. Howell then hit the still slippery kerbs at the chicane and went into a big slide that he somehow saved, once again Jordan benefited and claimed another position. Colin Turkington was right behind Howell and dived up the inside of Howell into Taylor‘s. The two rubbed against each other and briefly the car seemed to lock together. Both Turkington and Howell went off the track. Howell on the outside went into the tyre wall with Turkington bouncing over the gravel to rejoin the track. Howell managed to get back going again but not before the Safety Car was deployed.

    Turkington took this opportunity to change his filthy tyres. However the pitstop took too long as their had been a miscommunication in the WSR pits. Team boss, D!ck Bennetts had merely wanted 2 tyres changed on the MG however the crew changed all 4 tyres. So with the very short lap by the time they had done this Turkington was a lap down. There was no coming back from that. Bennetts was not happy. I imagine he was even less pleased when Turkington got a drive thru penalty for speeding in the pitlane.

    The race restarted with Giovanardi all over the back of Plato. Once again Giovanardi got alongside Plato out of the McIntyre’s hairpin and out dragged his opponent up the hill on the straight. Giovanardi swept ahead of Plato before Duffus’s Dip and took the lead. Seeing Plato was now vulnerable Neal closed in on his championship rival. Neal tried a late lunge up the inside of Plato at Clark. The move was never going to work and merely hit Plato and sent the SEAT off the track. Neal also suffered. Mike Jordan and Gordon Shedden pulled passed him on the run to Taylor’s. Shedden then dived up the inside of Jordan at the hairpin and took second place from him. However any thoughts that Shedden had of catching and passing Giovanardi were soon dashed as Jordan came back at him. Jordan followed Shedden closely through Duffus’s Dip and then on the exit tried to get on the inside of Shedden for the chicane. However the two made contact sending Shedden into a spin off track. Jordan lost several places and took car damage. Now Darren Turner found himself in second place. Behind Turner was Neal, Plato, Chilton, Collard, Smith and Jordan. Collard passed Chilton and tried to get by Plato. The two ran side by side through Duffus’s Dip until there was some contact. This sent Collard spinning off, Plato driving through the gravel and for some reason Mike Jordan also spun in the back ground.

    Neal caught Turner who had in turn caught Giovanardi and now the three began to squabble over the race lead. Behind them Plato and found himself behind Gordon Shedden who was in turn stuck behind Dave Pinkney. Both of them quickly passed Pinkney at Duffus’s Dip. Those two set off to try and catch Smith and Chilton who were closing on the leading trio. Turner following Giovanardi was slowed by the Vauxhall out of Clark, this let Matt Neal drive around the outside of Turner and almost drive by Giovanardi but the Italian fended off Neal and he was forced to accept 2nd place for now. Within a lap the trio had become a quintet as Chilton and Smith arrived to support their team mate. Giovanardi was using all his experience to keep Neal and Turner at bay but a small mistake through Clark let Neal get nose alongside. Giovanardi then squeezed Neal hard, forcing Neal to choose between driving on the grass or backing off, Neal chose the latter. This gave Darren Turner a run on the outside and went ahead of Neal briefly into the Taylor’s Hairpin. However Neal held the inside and re-passed Turner. Gavin Smith then had the run on Turner out of the corner and the two raced side by side to Duffus Dip, yet Turner somehow braved it out around the outside and stayed ahead of Smith. A lap later Neal had gotten too close to Giovanardi and his engine lost power for a moment due to lack of airflow into it. This gave Turner a perfect run out of Taylor’s and passed Neal for second place. By this time Gordon Shedden had joined the rear of the queue behind Giovanardi. Shedden dispatched both Chilton and Smith in quick order, moving up to support his team mate. Jason Plato then caught the group making a seven car train. Neal attempted to pass Turner into the chicane but Turner held him off. This of course slowed Neal up, Shedden didn’t want to pass his championship challenging team mate so he was slowed as well. Gavin Smith had no problem about passing anyone so went to the inside of Shedden going to the hairpin. However Shedden moved over to block Smith, however he misjudged how close the Vauxhall was and tagged the front end of Smith. Shedden was sent into a spin off the track and right into the tyre wall smashing the front end of the Integra badly. This slowed Smith down allowing Chilton, Plato and Jordan to go by. Plato then passed Chilton into Taylor’s Hairpin.

    The last lap began, Giovanardi had been holding off Turner, Neal et al for around 15 laps. Turner of course was also out to get his first BTCC victory, while Neal was out to extend his championship lead. Giovanardi continued to defend from Turner, while Neal briefly looked to go down the inside of  Turner at Clark, however Neal suddenly found Plato coming from a rather long way back (much like Neal had done earlier in the race). Neal was tagged by Plato and went into a spin. The SEAT’s front end heavily impacted against the side of the Honda. Then Tom Chilton with nowhere to go slammed into both Plato and Neal, it tore the SEAT’s front right wheel off. Mike Jordan without anywhere to go rammed into Neal as well, braking Jordan’s suspension. Chilton and Jordan (innocent parties in this) were immediately out. Plato somehow continued with three wheels. However clearly Plato hadn’t realised he was missing a wheel as into the last corner he was travelling at near full speed, he spun off the track and got stuck in the gravel.

    With his hunters having taken themselves out, Fabrizio Giovanardi held off Darren Turner for the last few yards of the race and claimed his first and Vauxhall’s 100th BTCC win (their first win since Yvan Muller won at Knockhill last year). Darren Turner for the second time that day got second place…unfortunately for the second time that day he wouldn’t get to keep it. As I previously said despite having been classified as 10th in race 1, Turner had finished in second place and was meant to carry the 36kg of success ballast for the next race. However Turner’s crew had forgotten this and had never loaded on the ballast. As such the Stewards had no choice but to disqualify Turner from the race (Turner and SEAT effectively costing themselves 23 points in two races). This gave Vauxhall a 1-2 with Gavin Smith getting 2nd place. But who got third place? With the leading pack and the front of the midfield completely wiped out, Dave Pinkney had come through the carnage to claim a fantastic 3rd place, his best ever BTCC finish. Pinkney had gashed his hand putting up an awning and this cut had badly effected his pace through the weekend, so a third was a great reward. However it was the man in 4th place I dare say raised the most eyebrows. Following Pinkney through the wrecked cars was Jason Hughes claiming a best ever finish. In 6th and 8th were two more best ever finishes. Mark Proctor had got through to finish in 6th, making his decision to come to Knockhill worthwhile. In 8th was Martyn Bell in his BMW, collecting 3 points. In 5th place and surely driving the 2nd most invincible vehicle on the face of the planet was Matt Neal. Somehow despite being hit by Plato, Chilton and Jordan within the space of 2 seconds, Neal’s Integra limped around to finish in 5th place. Gareth Howell had got 7th and Colin Turkington despite being a lap got 9th…and no one else finished. So of the 9 finishers, 5 got their best ever BTCC finishes.

    Result
    1. Fabrizio Giovanardi VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch
    2. Gavin Smith VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch
    3. Dave Pinkney Motorbase Performance Honda Integra Type-R
    4. Jason Hughes Kartworld Racing MG ZS
    5. Matt Neal Team Dynamics Honda Indestructible Type-R
    6. Mark Proctor Fast-tec Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R
    7. Gareth Howell Team Dynamics Honda Integra Type-R
    8. Martyn Bell Geoff Steel Racing BMW 320.i E46
    9. Colin Turkington West Surrey Racing MG ZS
    DNF. Jason Plato SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon
    DNF. Tom Chilton VX Racing Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch
    DNF. Mike Jordan Team Eurotech Honda Integra Type-R
    DNF. Gordon Shedden Team Dynamics Honda Integra Type-R
    DNF. Robert Collard West Surrey Racing MG ZS
    DNF. James Kaye Synchro Motorsport Honda Civic Type-R
    DNF. Adam Jones Xero Competition Lexus IS200
    DNS. Richard Marsh Team Griffin Racing Peugeot 307
    DSQ. Darren Turner SEAT Sport UK SEAT Leon
    Fastest Lap: Colin Turkington 53.745s

    Race 3

    With the destruction in race 2 it was a question of just how many cars would make the start of the final race at Knockhill. Plato’s car was too badly damaged and he was out. Mike Jordan’s car had taken too much collective damage from the first two races and was out. James Kaye and Adam Jones had collided early on in race two and both of their day’s were done. On top of this out came all the special banners Vauxhall had made last year. Vauxhall’s 100th Win was proudly placed on the windscreen banner on all three cars. Balloons came out but unfortunately the cake they had baked last year was now a little bit past it’s best. Ian Harrison was given the honour of drawing the number for the reverse grid which came out as 6. This had been before Turner’s disqualification and Harrison thought Neal had taken pole, the look on his face was great Big Smile [:D] . As it was, Turner’s disqualification put Neal to 5th and meant Mark Proctor would start from pole, like he did last year.

    Proctor got a