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Last post 05-23-2006, 11:26 AM by Phoenix Talion. 80 replies.
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  •  4/10/2006 1:06:44 PM 773926 in reply to 773903

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    Thaddius LeGume:
    Although very off topic, how? The flute's a wind instrument. Therefore you need to use your mouth to play it.


    Well I maybe not at exactly the same time but certainly during the same performance.

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  •  4/10/2006 1:18:06 PM 773927 in reply to 773926

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    Some skilled bards might be able to play it with their nose or other various bodyparts. But in some official campaing there was a typo "..took a flute from the closet and began to sing and play.." most likely the maker was meaning lute, but atleast we got a nice laugh when playing it.


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  •  4/10/2006 3:44:31 PM 773955 in reply to 773927

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    With some minor bardic magic, playing flute and singing at the same time is quite easy. Much easier than trying to play the flute with your nose. Huh? [:^)]


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  •  4/11/2006 7:08:34 AM 774123 in reply to 773955

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    Though I could see a Bard in a party with a half orc barbarian getting the flute lodged in his nose and having to play it that way.
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  •  4/11/2006 8:24:17 AM 774138 in reply to 773908

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    i'm picturing that on my head and i almost fell off my chair

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  •  4/11/2006 3:45:35 PM 774181 in reply to 774138

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    @Jwmblade, that strikes me as very unsanitary.
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  •  4/11/2006 5:33:19 PM 774198 in reply to 774181

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    I can think of less comfortable and sanitary places for it.
    I swear, now you're just doing it to piss me off.
  •  4/12/2006 6:19:11 AM 774273 in reply to 774198

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    For the doubters out there, I give you the nose flute.

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  •  4/12/2006 7:07:47 AM 774284 in reply to 774198

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    Phoenix of Borg:
    I can think of less comfortable and sanitary places for it.

     

    Yes but how the heck are you going to generate enough airflow to make any noises? Huh? [:^)]


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  •  4/12/2006 8:14:32 AM 774289 in reply to 774284

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    Jwmblade:

    Phoenix of Borg:
    I can think of less comfortable and sanitary places for it.

     

    Yes but how the heck are you going to generate enough airflow to make any noises? Huh? [:^)]

    I present for your horrified amusement: Mr Methane.


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  •  4/12/2006 10:37:20 AM 774298 in reply to 774289

    Computer [co] Re: D&D Knowledge, Freely dispensed

    Well, this is all off to a wonderfully strange start.  Just the way I like things to go too!

    And as this is a thread of D&D knowledge (both mechanic and flavor/trivia) I offer this little bit of advice concerning a little of both flavor and mechanics:  Polymorphing can be a pain in the arse.

    No matter what side you look at it from (the DM, the player polymorphing, or all the other players waiting for someone to polymorph), it does little more than slow down a game session.  Imagine your party runs into a group of ogres.  You're fighter goes charging in screaming, the rogue ducks aside waiting to sneak attack something, your sleric throws of a mass buff spell of some sort, and then the wizard decides to polymorph into something.  Of course, your group didn't expect ogres, so now this player starts flipping through monster manuals, looking for something particularly nasty that he can change into.  And unless he/she has something in mind, this can take several minutes.  And to anyone who has played D&D can tell you that slowing down combat for more than a minute is not only a mood killer, but earns the one doing the slowing a fair amount of disdain and animosity.  On top of all this, once the polymorphing individual has made his selction, it usually turns out be little help in combat, since the big restriction in polymorph lies with your Hit Dice.

    There are some obvious ways of reducing this particular problem.  One, you can do what the RPGA is doing now and simply restrict or outright forbid polymorph.  You know something has become a real piece of crap when the RPGA says "F#@& it! We just won't use it anymore."  Then there's the option of restricting its use to non combat situations, when the option to polymorph has usually come about as a part of some plan, and the user already has something in mind, thus cutting down on the slowing down.  But the option I use for my games is the "stop-being-lazy-jackass-and-plan-ahead" method.  Essentially, anyone who wants to prolifically use polymorphing abilities, must have all stats and data they need to smoothly be their choosen form on stand-by.  Generally, if it takes more than six seconds for you to be ready, it's too long.

     

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  •  4/12/2006 5:38:08 PM 774367 in reply to 774298

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    You certainly like to download, Firespark Smile [:)]

    If the party's mage is using polymorph in purely offensive way, then forward planning is useful. Very quickly, shape changing spellcasters find favourite shapes. The trick is to look up the critters beforehand. I've DMed and played with this situation and my advice has always been to prep before the battle. You know your mage has the polymorph spell memorised so don't leave the decision to the last minute. Being proactive helps too as the foes you are facing shouldn't dictate what shape you pick. Be creative.

    Banning polymorph because its time consuming seems the soft option to me.


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  •  4/12/2006 8:37:49 PM 774389 in reply to 774367

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    Just pick three forms(or however many you think you need) and keep them written down somewhere. A big, strong form, a small form (useful for getting out of tight spaces or not being noticed), and something that can fly, would be my picks.
    I swear, now you're just doing it to piss me off.
  •  4/13/2006 4:55:26 AM 774427 in reply to 774367

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    Morrigan:

    You certainly like to download, Firespark Smile [:)]

    If the party's mage is using polymorph in purely offensive way, then forward planning is useful. Very quickly, shape changing spellcasters find favourite shapes. The trick is to look up the critters beforehand. I've DMed and played with this situation and my advice has always been to prep before the battle. You know your mage has the polymorph spell memorised so don't leave the decision to the last minute. Being proactive helps too as the foes you are facing shouldn't dictate what shape you pick. Be creative.

    Banning polymorph because its time consuming seems the soft option to me.

     

    Well, the time consumption was merely the final trigger that brought the polymorph issue back into the lime light.  The biggest issue, is that pretty early on, oh say 5 or 6 HD, monsters take a huge up-swing in their power ratings in order to keep up with your average four person adventuring group.  Suddenly, monsters are made more effective through powers and not just hit points, thus they receive a level adjustment to make up the difference.  But the polymorph spell doesn't take into account this level adjustment portion.  But polymorph did restrict some of these capabilities that you received in turn, but near the top half of the spell's capapbilitie, polymorph still had overpowering potential.  The new errata for polymorph has pretty much cut out all the extraneous garbage and put everything into pretty succienct definitions.

    I said that I required players to prepare ahead if they used polymorph, which I see as quite reasonable.  The RPGA however, cut it not only because of its potential to unbalance a game session, but also the time factor.  The RPGA deals with D&D in a convention-scale setting.  Where literally hundreds of games could be going on simultaneously, and time table that needs to be adhered to.  Under these conditions, I understand why they limited the polymorph spell and associated prestige classes (master of many forms, transmogrifist, etc.)


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  •  4/13/2006 7:14:43 AM 774438 in reply to 774427

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    Polymorph doesn't need to take level adjustment into account because the spell's duration is not permanent.

    I've played Living Greyhawk so I understand the RPGA's time constraints. I can accept the RPGA have had to streamline gameplay but dropping polymorph only encourages the Blast Radius Magi to pick damage-dealing spells. DMs should encourage players to experiment with spells not just relying on ye olde fireball.


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